The 1UZFE EGR Delete Kit is available for sale here.
Nah not at all mate, i couldn't disagree more. I have no issue with the strength of the stock engine and as long as your power expectations are reasonable i have demostrated they will last just fine making good power under tough conditions.
Both the engines i have lost were because of factors other than engine strength. A forged engine could quite easily have blown in both instances as well...although the safety margin should be much greater.
An engine making more than twice the factory power rating is probably getting close to it's limit. When something goes wrong, you are going to be in trouble. I had 2 instances of something going wrong due to my lack of attention to detail...it's all on me, not the engine.
Anyways, back to TT for me but once again i'm struggling with which way to go.
I love the idea of my fully built UZ, but...it's a lot of coin to invest in a rarely used toy? If i'm honest with all the costs the built engine will have to come in around $10K. For no more power than a stocky will handle really? Sure the built engine will produce more if you want but if i can't use it at the track it's only good for bragging rights at the pub
I have an LS1 with loom and ECU sitting there and toying with the idea of stuffing that in instead....blasphemy and heart says UZ...capacity speaks to the brain and hip pocket though and a compelling voice
JustenGT8
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JustenGT8
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Even my cycling mates would take the Celica
Apart from being hell fun and a speed high (it's all relative), it's a life style decision. Trying to stay as fit as i can (just turned 43 with a 4 yr old), for as long as i can and i'm running out of activities.....footy is too hard on the body and a life time of it has my knees too knackered for jogging. I'm not a sedate activities kind of guy so cross country ticks a lot of boxes
Apart from being hell fun and a speed high (it's all relative), it's a life style decision. Trying to stay as fit as i can (just turned 43 with a 4 yr old), for as long as i can and i'm running out of activities.....footy is too hard on the body and a life time of it has my knees too knackered for jogging. I'm not a sedate activities kind of guy so cross country ticks a lot of boxes
JustenGT8
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Just to get some greeness outta my system i did another hillclimb today and quite a good one, considering the weather. Won my class and into the 49's, which is always a good day at Sutton. I tried a coupla new lines (which worked), so next time we have a full dry day i reckon i'll be good for a PB and hopefully a 48
Next one might be back with the TT setup
I have some vids but Go Pro doesn't always give the best quality...i need to edit them 1st anyways.
Next one might be back with the TT setup
I have some vids but Go Pro doesn't always give the best quality...i need to edit them 1st anyways.
JustenGT8
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and as promised a wee bit of footage...i need compression schooling though 
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/celicagt8/?action=view¤t=Suttonrun400compressed00.mp4
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w74/celicagt8/?action=view¤t=Suttonrun400compressed00.mp4
JustenGT8
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I lunched the old TT engine...well just broke a ring land. A new 'built' engine is progressing slowly (using Argo Rods), but i was keen to get the car back on the track so i whipped this up outta sh!t i had lying around
It was also a chance to real world test an SC and see where (if anywhere) it's better than the TT setup. Nowhere is the SC better is my assessment. It's not bad, in fact it is still very good, but the TT kills it in every performance comparison.
The SC does provide a much more linear response, which makes it easier to drive, so i've bumped the static compression up to 11.5:1 for the new TT to see if i can get even better response. Interestingly, the TT power curve is better than the SC everywhere, even low rpm. That's on 6 psi LESS boost as well....that's the real killer for me. I'm currently making much less power than the TT setup, with much more boost....on paper the efficiencies aren't that different but real world? They are HUGE.
Still, 270-280rwkw (on a very safe tune) is power most would be happy with and the car still goes like a cut snake
Argo rods? great!! Even better at the group buy price They are ahead of Spool and Eagle and closer to the real top send stuff but at a price i can understand.
It was also a chance to real world test an SC and see where (if anywhere) it's better than the TT setup. Nowhere is the SC better is my assessment. It's not bad, in fact it is still very good, but the TT kills it in every performance comparison.
The SC does provide a much more linear response, which makes it easier to drive, so i've bumped the static compression up to 11.5:1 for the new TT to see if i can get even better response. Interestingly, the TT power curve is better than the SC everywhere, even low rpm. That's on 6 psi LESS boost as well....that's the real killer for me. I'm currently making much less power than the TT setup, with much more boost....on paper the efficiencies aren't that different but real world? They are HUGE.
Still, 270-280rwkw (on a very safe tune) is power most would be happy with and the car still goes like a cut snake
Argo rods? great!! Even better at the group buy price
They are ahead of Spool and Eagle and closer to the real top send stuff but at a price i can understand.
JustenGT8
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Oops, broke another one Once again, not the engine's fault. Usual track day at Wakefield but stinking hot. The car was running well and i was giving it some coming onto the main straight ina big drift...popped the MAP ref line off the ECU...this has never happened before and you'd expect it to come off at the engine, not at the ECU inside the car?
Anyways, full boost with no fuel and god knows what ign timing was enough to do some damage. Next session out i got in 4 hot laps and it stared getting a little breathy...then a stutter and smoke out of the breathers. I erckon a ring land has let go same as last time. It still idles smooth and runs fine until you are on boost. Tough as these engines
I reckon the SC setup is now up for sale as i'll just try and fast track my new TT setup.
If anyone is intersted and wants to get in before i start advertising, drop me a pm. It'll include the engine which should be fine with just a new piston inserted...or makes a good basis for a full rebuild.
Once again, not the engine's fault. Usual track day at Wakefield but stinking hot. The car was running well and i was giving it some coming onto the main straight ina big drift...popped the MAP ref line off the ECU...this has never happened before and you'd expect it to come off at the engine, not at the ECU inside the car?Anyways, full boost with no fuel and god knows what ign timing was enough to do some damage. Next session out i got in 4 hot laps and it stared getting a little breathy...then a stutter and smoke out of the breathers. I erckon a ring land has let go same as last time. It still idles smooth and runs fine until you are on boost. Tough as these engines
I reckon the SC setup is now up for sale as i'll just try and fast track my new TT setup.
If anyone is intersted and wants to get in before i start advertising, drop me a pm. It'll include the engine which should be fine with just a new piston inserted...or makes a good basis for a full rebuild.
Bummer.
Your map setting would have gone to 100kpa so you would have had fuel but probably knowhere near enough under boost.
Just keep adding oil at the end of each race until it spits something else out.
I will put a dot of super glue on my MAP hoses I think.
A hot rod guy up the road from me has a sc400 front cut that was given to him, he ran it at wide open throttle for 1/2 hr with no load to check it out...... Runs like a dream and not even a hint of smoke, soon to become a salt flat racer style hot rod.
Your map setting would have gone to 100kpa so you would have had fuel but probably knowhere near enough under boost.
Just keep adding oil at the end of each race until it spits something else out.
I will put a dot of super glue on my MAP hoses I think.
A hot rod guy up the road from me has a sc400 front cut that was given to him, he ran it at wide open throttle for 1/2 hr with no load to check it out...... Runs like a dream and not even a hint of smoke, soon to become a salt flat racer style hot rod.
Justen, sorry to hear that news.
I've never understood why some ECU manufacturers insist on embedding MAP sensors onto their MB's, and then you have to run a line to it through the firewall.
That makes about as much sense as the old days when you had mechanical fuel pressure gauges and had high octane fuel running through the dash.
OK the embedded MAP sensors aren't quite as flammable as the fuel gauges, perhaps, but about as sensible......
I've never understood why some ECU manufacturers insist on embedding MAP sensors onto their MB's, and then you have to run a line to it through the firewall.
That makes about as much sense as the old days when you had mechanical fuel pressure gauges and had high octane fuel running through the dash.
OK the embedded MAP sensors aren't quite as flammable as the fuel gauges, perhaps, but about as sensible......
JustenGT8
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No biggy it was a $300 engine and gave me a good run of events so not that bummed. Am annoying little issue to lunch an engine over though.....i usually put a small cable tie on vac lines but didn't on this one.
Engine will just need a piston so a cheap fix for someone and will probably run fault free for another 100K
Engine will just need a piston so a cheap fix for someone and will probably run fault free for another 100K
XR8tt
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Seems pistons are suspect ??
I wander what end gap is on the rings ???
Maybe too tight and binding which will break ring lands...
Due to extra heat with extra power...
Yep build a forged engine..
No point in having a church engine...
An engine you hope and pray it survives...
I wander what end gap is on the rings ???
Maybe too tight and binding which will break ring lands...
Due to extra heat with extra power...
Yep build a forged engine..
No point in having a church engine...
An engine you hope and pray it survives...
JustenGT8
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Nah not at all mate, i couldn't disagree more. I have no issue with the strength of the stock engine and as long as your power expectations are reasonable i have demostrated they will last just fine making good power under tough conditions.
Both the engines i have lost were because of factors other than engine strength. A forged engine could quite easily have blown in both instances as well...although the safety margin should be much greater.
An engine making more than twice the factory power rating is probably getting close to it's limit. When something goes wrong, you are going to be in trouble. I had 2 instances of something going wrong due to my lack of attention to detail...it's all on me, not the engine.
Anyways, back to TT for me but once again i'm struggling with which way to go.
I love the idea of my fully built UZ, but...it's a lot of coin to invest in a rarely used toy? If i'm honest with all the costs the built engine will have to come in around $10K. For no more power than a stocky will handle really? Sure the built engine will produce more if you want but if i can't use it at the track it's only good for bragging rights at the pub
I have an LS1 with loom and ECU sitting there and toying with the idea of stuffing that in instead....blasphemy and heart says UZ...capacity speaks to the brain and hip pocket though and a compelling voice
LS1 twin turbo it is then.........
I went to the track last weekend and spent 90% of the time spinning the wheels, great fun doing power slides but unless you can get the power to the ground it's a waste of time and frustrating. I am going to order some better R spec tyres for next time.
I went to the track last weekend and spent 90% of the time spinning the wheels, great fun doing power slides but unless you can get the power to the ground it's a waste of time and frustrating. I am going to order some better R spec tyres for next time.
JustenGT8
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Plus assembly, plus fastners, plus machining, plus head reco etc etc....this is all at mates rates and well priced parts sourcing....a fully built engine don't come cheap.
For the measely 350rwkw i need a stock LS will do...run 8-10psi and it's done easy and it will be a low stressed engine as well. That's plenty of power for circuit and still gets me a easy 10 at the strip...i don't need to have the biggest number
For the measely 350rwkw i need a stock LS will do...run 8-10psi and it's done easy and it will be a low stressed engine as well. That's plenty of power for circuit and still gets me a easy 10 at the strip...i don't need to have the biggest number
Anyone who can build a good 1UZ for less than $10,000 stole the parts!
Pistons $1,500
Rods $1,500
Heads $3,000
Cams $2,000
Inlet system 4-8,000
This is before machining, fasteners, gaskets ect.
No change out of $15,00 for a balanced forged engine.
By the time I had an exhaust added to mine and tuning I was in the hole for $30,000 min.
Justen,
Check the wanted ads here someone in Scotland looking for a supercharger set up.
Pistons $1,500
Rods $1,500
Heads $3,000
Cams $2,000
Inlet system 4-8,000
This is before machining, fasteners, gaskets ect.
No change out of $15,00 for a balanced forged engine.
By the time I had an exhaust added to mine and tuning I was in the hole for $30,000 min.
Justen,
Check the wanted ads here someone in Scotland looking for a supercharger set up.
