striker
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An Ultima costs WHAT??? at your place??? bloody hell thats indeed expensive.
there's 30.000 euro ultima's on the road here in holland....
the thing with kitcars is that you can build them yourself, it'll be YOUR car, not a car you have bought off a dealer. nobody on earth knows more about it than you do,
I never had much with cars untill I owned one of which I had avery bolt and nut in my own fingers twice
onder: . the first time it starts and you drive off, you'll never experience that in something someone else has made.
I also have drivven quite a lot of quick cars street production cars, and I have also build my own trackday weapon which is street legal BTW. and that outperforms anything ever build production, and I don't even drive that well,
though it's indeed not a match in a straigt line to for instance a 600bhp supra... but lets just wait till the first corner is in sight, let alone the second
spaceframe kitcars have the tendancy "to be able" to be very light, so:
forget a stereo (with a good engine you can't hear it anyway)
forget powerbraking and steering you won't need it,
forget anything comfy which a typical car has, take of even more stuff such as interiour panels and sound deadning panels..... pff who ever thought that up? nothing better than your ears freezing of at 130km/h
forget big wheels, heavy!
13" minilites with yokohama a03 or ACB10 avons are your friends.
spoilers and skirts..... YUK! no way! only a good diffusor in the rear and maybe a FUNCTIONAL wing.
ditch anything electro you don't need. heater also another 4kg saved
fit a harley davidson battery (light very small and cheap)
get some good calipers and pads and steelflex pipes to get a ROCKHARD compared to "street stuff" brake pedal.
put in the lightest relaiable high revving engine ,that suits the type and weight of the car, you can find. connect that to the lightest 5 speeds you can find. connect that to the best solid axle you can find for your car.
the exact smame fillosofy goes for an Atom, caterham, ultima, Sylva, and the lot, the only differance being: one make, putting lots off money into R&D and the other going trial and error, and one being designed as a super expensive supercar and the other something more modest of shape
they're all very light and very quick.
follow the above rules and you'll end up with something like this.
nice on track, and completly insane on the road.
weight ready to drive = 498 kilogramm or 1098 lbs
engine = 4age20v on omex 122rwhp 178nm @7800rpm 146nm from 2700rpm T50box
sierra cosworth braking system on Hawk pads
2.6 turn quick steering rack and yokohama A539 tyres for street michelin slicks for track
I'll happily take on anything at any form of traffic light on the road, let alone on a bendy old dutch dyke-road, my brother included on the yamaha FZR1000 exup...... whoaoap beybey. never lost such a thing to this day.
grtz Thomas
(sorry but considering this was a kitcar related topic I just couldn't resist)
there's 30.000 euro ultima's on the road here in holland....
the thing with kitcars is that you can build them yourself, it'll be YOUR car, not a car you have bought off a dealer. nobody on earth knows more about it than you do,
I never had much with cars untill I owned one of which I had avery bolt and nut in my own fingers twice
onder: . the first time it starts and you drive off, you'll never experience that in something someone else has made.I also have drivven quite a lot of quick cars street production cars, and I have also build my own trackday weapon which is street legal BTW. and that outperforms anything ever build production, and I don't even drive that well,
though it's indeed not a match in a straigt line to for instance a 600bhp supra... but lets just wait till the first corner is in sight, let alone the second
spaceframe kitcars have the tendancy "to be able" to be very light, so:
forget a stereo (with a good engine you can't hear it anyway)
forget powerbraking and steering you won't need it,
forget anything comfy which a typical car has, take of even more stuff such as interiour panels and sound deadning panels..... pff who ever thought that up? nothing better than your ears freezing of at 130km/h
forget big wheels, heavy!
13" minilites with yokohama a03 or ACB10 avons are your friends.
spoilers and skirts..... YUK! no way! only a good diffusor in the rear and maybe a FUNCTIONAL wing.
ditch anything electro you don't need. heater also another 4kg saved
fit a harley davidson battery (light very small and cheap)
get some good calipers and pads and steelflex pipes to get a ROCKHARD compared to "street stuff" brake pedal.
put in the lightest relaiable high revving engine ,that suits the type and weight of the car, you can find. connect that to the lightest 5 speeds you can find. connect that to the best solid axle you can find for your car.
the exact smame fillosofy goes for an Atom, caterham, ultima, Sylva, and the lot, the only differance being: one make, putting lots off money into R&D and the other going trial and error, and one being designed as a super expensive supercar and the other something more modest of shape
they're all very light and very quick.
follow the above rules and you'll end up with something like this.
nice on track, and completly insane on the road.
weight ready to drive = 498 kilogramm or 1098 lbs
engine = 4age20v on omex 122rwhp 178nm @7800rpm 146nm from 2700rpm T50box
sierra cosworth braking system on Hawk pads
2.6 turn quick steering rack and yokohama A539 tyres for street michelin slicks for track
I'll happily take on anything at any form of traffic light on the road, let alone on a bendy old dutch dyke-road, my brother included on the yamaha FZR1000 exup...... whoaoap beybey. never lost such a thing to this day.
grtz Thomas
(sorry but considering this was a kitcar related topic I just couldn't resist)
