RMS selling the 1uz?

[striker]

Think this is yours,

going commercial are you. NICE!

just curious.

I know you're always saying that if you have to ask what such costs, the asker probably can't afford it,
I know what I pay for used DF? judds and the odd IRL's but have not got any clue wheter this your engines are also competitive on ones bank acount or only on track.

other question BTW, do you perhaps know of which age the cosworth F1 engines went to pneumatic valve lifters?

Grtz Thomas

 

[striker]

25.000 US seems steep but not out of the oridinairy.

sorry misread the ad, to many open screens on the monitor right now and watchs tells me 4:53am

grtz thomas

 

[rms]

G'day Thomas,
A rebuilt DFV/DFR and 4 ltr DFL will cost 70/80,000 USD with a 30 hour life. A rebuild at 30 hrs will cost around 30,000 USD. I have seen some advertised cheaper but they probably need rebuilds + new rods,crank etc.

The 1UZ is close to the same weight (168 kg), bhp (DFV -510, DFL - 540), same height and width but 100mm longer. A top spec 1UZ will be around 45/50,000 USD. We feel the advantage is maintenance and rebuild costs.
Production block - head castings and crank, the other major components are readily available and the only specialised parts are the sump/bellhousing/injection. So the hip pocket can retain a bit of padding.

Anyway, the add is out there and we will see if we get any bites.
'You will never never know, if you never never go'

I think the first pneumatic valve train Cosworth V8 was the '91/'92 HB.
The Schoo's first World Championship for Benneton was with pneumatic valve gear ('94 or '95 ???).

 

[jibbby]

Painful to read that these race motors only last 30hrs then cost $30,000USD to rebuild. I guess that is the norm....

This is definetely a rich mans sport...

 

[striker]

Painful to read that these race motors only last 30hrs then cost $30,000USD to rebuild. I guess that is the norm....

This is definetely a rich mans sport...

Well depends on how you look at it, don't forget that even when these type of engines are not producing half the power they're able to do with forced induction, they can do it at rpms that the usual turbo conversion would only dream of, and noone on here seems to be talking about gearing anyway.....

a lot of money for sure, but nothing to steep for this caliber stuff.

Thanx for the info Erol. hopefully they bite a lot!

Grtz Thomas

 

[jibbby]

Is it that these motors rev so high and create so much heat and friction that the rings and cylinder walls take an increadible beating quickly and deteriorate at an astonomical rate? Or is it alluminum internal parts like the rods or other internal parts just simply break under the high rpms and destroy the motor? Or both?

 

[striker]

No, just extreme wear and tear of parts like bearings rings etc etc etc, if there was a part to break when in use, there's something gone wrong in either (re)building the engine or in the race itself.

also tollerances in these engines allow for much higher specification, the downside is that they wear faster.

the ZX12 and busa engines in the CCRC over here go out every 60 hours to get new shells, that's the only way to keep them going driving on longer results in failure of critical parts. escaping conrods ring a bell?

who was it again that said, teh best racing engine is the one that blows up on the finnish. having just won the race. if the engine lasts longer they figure that more power can be had from it.

remember 30h flat out brings wear normaly not seen in an engine, there's a DFV in a road car nearby me which has done 20th miles now without major isues...... would gues it will run on for a very long time. redlines @ 9krpm btw just not for sustained periods of time like on track

grtz Thomas

 

[cribbj]

who was it again that said, teh best racing engine is the one that blows up on the finnish. having just won the race. if the engine lasts longer they figure that more power can be had from it.

grtz Thomas

Colin Chapman: "Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy."

Also by Colin Chapman " You won't catch me driving a race car that I have built."

I always thought the quote about "the perfectly designed race car is the one that falls to bits at the finish" came from Colin Chapman too, but I've since read where it was attributed to Dr. Porsche.

Back to topic.....

 

[striker]

nah chapman said that about the 11,
I meant really about the engine, anyway the person reffered specificly to the engines internals being to heavy thus costing power, think it was john judd not sure though.

having seen a original 11 in the flesh I know what he meant by not wanting to drive it......

indeed back to topic.

Erol what would you highest revving streetable engine put out in NA configuration. vvt allowed to make up for idle.

grtz Thomas